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Post  CA$H on Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:51 am

Keep in mind Mid War.

510 for 3 StuGs - range 32", AT 11, RoF 2, FP 3+
550 for 2 Panthers - range 32", AT 14, RoF 2, FP 3+

Whats the better deal? 4 shots at AT 14, or 6 at AT 11? I'm thinking the higher output of shots is best, considering most tanks in MW are Front Armor 6 at best.

Also, Panther have better front/side armor, but same top. So are just as vulnerable. And really, StuGs at range are armor 8 - pretty solid..

Thoughts?
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Post  Diragi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:17 pm

Well sounds like we will have to face Churchills and KV-1..
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Post  Joyous_Oblivion on Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:00 pm

They all terrify an American player equally, so having more of them is likely better.

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Post  Diragi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:23 pm

StuHs are even better against yanks!
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Post  Joyous_Oblivion on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:22 pm

I so wished the Americans had taken a page from Germany and made some decent AT tanks, not just on squishy TD platforms. Would kill to have a panther-esque equivalent for US.

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Post  Diragi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:48 pm

Well if BF ever get into late-late war you might have the Pershing

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Their guesstimate stats:
armour: 11/5/1
gun: RoF 2, AT 12, 3+



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Post  Joyous_Oblivion on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:17 pm

Hmmm prior to the M36 coming out I'd agree with AT 12, but I can see this thing being AT 14 if it ever comes out and that would be nice. Even the hellcats and M10s are AT 13 now, the 90mm guns should be a bit more 'punchy'

Hmmm purely for modelling wonder if anyone makes 1:100 Pershings yet?

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Post  Diragi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 4:25 pm

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Skytrex/ Command Decision? M26 Pershings,
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Post  CA$H on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:00 pm

So - StuGs or Panthers.?
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Post  Diragi on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:03 pm

Hetzers
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Post  lothlann on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:28 pm

hetzers are late war, i'd go with panzer IV f1 they are the best vs churches and kv1s... Smile

i'd say the panthers would be more of a threat then the stugs, but having 3 stugs is would be better vs non heavy targets.

Did you think of using a 1942 Schwere Panzer Platoon with 1 tiger and 1 panzer III N for 495 or 500 if you up it to M or L. I know the panzer III gun is only 9. The tiger ignores the panzer III if it gets destoryed. Its a little cheaper on pts but you have less higher end fire power.
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Post  CA$H on Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:51 pm

lothlann wrote:

Did you think of using a 1942 Schwere Panzer Platoon with 1 tiger and 1 panzer III N for 495 or 500 if you up it to M or L. I know the panzer III gun is only 9. The tiger ignores the panzer III if it gets destoryed. Its a little cheaper on pts but you have less higher end fire power.

thats an option......but has fewer high AT shots........
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Post  Joyous_Oblivion on Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:23 pm

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Skytrex/ Command Decision? M26 Pershings,

They look awesome!!! Thanks Duane Smile

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Post  Matt Varnish on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:02 am

I'd say StuG's as AT 14 vs Allies is overkill in MW... if it weren't red on blue, I don;t know if its so clear-cut.. but knowing you don;t have to face any Tigers and such is great. While yes there will be a few Churchills, they have a crap gun in MW (LW isnt so great either), so really they aren;t much of a threat to your AT assets.. Smile
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Post  Diragi on Wed Oct 24, 2012 10:34 am

Is it confirmed that is 100% r v b or is going to be mixed up for rounds 2 & 3?
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Post  Matt Varnish on Wed Oct 24, 2012 12:13 pm

No idea, but I tell you what.. I'm not changing my list after pouring in the hours to get the Churchills done Smile Just have markings left to do tonite on them, and then base infantry.
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Post  CA$H on Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:25 pm

So, KVs, churchillls (i think Loius is bringing his also)........some heavy AT is not a bad idea....PaK40s maybe... or just take the Panthers.
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Post  Joyous_Oblivion on Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:11 am

Dug in pak40s are my name of existance, lol. That's I bought them first for when I do Germans.

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Post  Matt Varnish on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:09 am

So yesterday Ca$h said he was spray painting tanks... He alread has StuGs, he already has Panthers.. so is there a MW list that can take Hetzers? Smile
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Post  CA$H on Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:57 am

Matt Varnish wrote:So yesterday Ca$h said he was spray painting tanks... He alread has StuGs, he already has Panthers.. so is there a MW list that can take Hetzers? Smile

SSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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Post  Matt Varnish on Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:59 am

No one checks this forum anyways right Smile At least I sleuthed it out.

So last night I went and painted the 8th army red 'rat' symbol and the ID number on all my churchills.. only to just now find out that Kingforce churchills didnt have them painted on when they went into battle (just found a pic of all 6 getting fueled up prior to their first battle). So I get to repaint over.. awesome.
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Post  lothlann on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:29 am

hetzers were only made 44+
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Post  Matt Varnish on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:36 am

Then I'm stumped .. unless its 3 Ferdinands or something Smile
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Post  Diragi on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:08 am

I'd keep the rat symbols to awesome not to keep.
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Post  Diragi on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:08 am

Matt Varnish wrote:Then I'm stumped .. unless its 3 Ferdinands or something Smile

That would be lamer than bringing 3 [s]kits[/s] KTs to two different tournaments!


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