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Post  PhantomRescue Sun Apr 03, 2016 9:36 pm

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Post  Twinlinked Sun Apr 03, 2016 10:20 pm

sounds good,

here's hoping I can get the day away,

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Post  Joyous_Oblivion Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:24 am

I'd have to play Yanks with no Tanks...this does not sound like a good proposition to me...

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Post  Matt Varnish Mon Apr 04, 2016 4:31 am

So fill the table with bazookas
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Post  Twinlinked Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:32 am

US airborne are pretty good..

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Post  PhantomRescue Mon Apr 04, 2016 6:38 am

Yup, US airborne does very well out of that book, add a few Shermans and you're golden!
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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:39 am

Looking forward to it. I should be able to go. I wonder what I should bring.

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Post  Twinlinked Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:42 am

We need to get Duane to come out with his Cromwell's..

Rob, are you trying to decide between tank heavy and INF heavy Canadians?

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Post  CA$H Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:44 am

You'll want anti infantry lists, regardless...Those books are heavily infantry slanted...
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Post  Matt Varnish Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:49 am

maybe jag-off panthers for me.. Smile
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Post  Twinlinked Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:08 am

i agree that for sure you need something to deal with infantry,

And then some anti tank guns to deal with tanks,

i like that the armies are restricted tot he two books, makes for a much more balanced and themed tourney,

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Post  Matt Varnish Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:16 am

Here it is, 5 Jag-Offs and 14 inf stands.. 1410 points, 4 platoons:)

German Schwere Panzerjager (Ersatz Fallschirmjager Support)

Tank Company, from Bridge by Bridge, page 34



Morale Points Platoons
1410 4
Headquarters
Compulsory Schwere Panzerjagerkompanier HQ (p.35) CinC Jagdpanther CV 235
Combat
Compulsory Schwere Panzerjager Platoon (p.35) Command Jagdpanther, Jagdpanther CV 470 1
Compulsory Schwere Panzerjager Platoon (p.35) Command Jagdpanther, Jagdpanther CV 470 1
Support
Security Platoon (p.135) Command Rifle, 6x Rifle RT 70 1
Grenadier Platoon (85 Infanteriedivision) (p.39) Command Panzerfaust SMG, 6x Rifle/MG CV 165 1






German Tank Teams
Name Mobility Front Side Top Notes
Weapon Range ROF AT Firepower
Jagdpanther Standard Tank 10 5 1 Hull MG
8.8cm KwK43 gun 40”/100cm 2 16 3+ Hull mounted



German Infantry Teams
Team Range ROF AntiTank Firepower Notes
Rifle 16”/40cm 1 2 6
Rifle/MG 16”/40cm 2 2 6
SMG 4”/10cm 3 1 6 Full ROF when moving.
Panzerfaust 4”/10cm 1 12 5+ Tank Assault 6, Cannot shoot in the Shooting Step if moved in the Movement Step
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Post  Twinlinked Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:20 am

Your security platoon is reluctant trained?
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Post  Glitch Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:28 am

Hull mounted AT - 16 gun (panther is AT-14), lose the co-ax machine gun, lose wide-tracks, gain unreliable. Approximately 33.33 points less than a standard Panther A.
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Post  Matt Varnish Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:49 am

And gain 100% coolness factor for taking Jagd's. When has anyone ever known me to take a power list haha.
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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:51 am

If I go I'm thinking of this:

Cdn Armd Recce

HQ 3 Shermans with Currie
troop with 2 Shermans and 2 Fireflies
troop with 2 Shermans and 2 Fireflies
infantry platoon in Rams with 50 cals
then I can select one of the following:
infantry platoon in Rams with 50 cals
recce troop of 4 Stuarts or
4 25 pdrs

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Post  Twinlinked Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:30 am

i think Recce is always a good idea..

Rob, you and i can run identical lists and see how they do..

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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:07 am

Twinlinked wrote:i think Recce is always a good idea..

Rob, you and i can run identical lists and see how they do..

A.

With the list above, the armd recce have eyes and ears and cautious movement, so I sometimes use some of the tanks to lift GTG, that's why I usually don't use recce for that list.

I also have a bunch of Panthers and STugs. Maybe I'll make a German list.

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Post  PhantomRescue Mon Apr 04, 2016 12:03 pm

You don't need to overthink the anti-infantry too much if it's not your type of list, or you simply would rather run armor. There will not be any turn six auto win missions, just like all my other events.

Yes. I agree Duane should get his last few hatches on and get his tanks green, but we're moving into cottage season. So maybe not this year. LOL
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Post  Glitch Mon Apr 04, 2016 1:06 pm

In regards to SAR, there are a few things to keep in mind.

Your tank platoons have eyes and ears, and cautious movement, but they're not actual Reece (so don't push back ambushes). Hence, why I nickname them pseduo-reece.

The other thing is that the Stuart Platoon is actually automatically broken up into two platoons of two stuarts each, or just one platoon of two stuarts. So Rob, you'd have 5 platoons in your list if you took the stuarts. However, it's a pretty cheap way of getting yourself to 6 platoons if you could somehow sqeeze in an extra platoon.
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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:23 pm

Not a lot of cheap platoons to buy for that list to get up to 6 platoons.
I paid an extra 85 points (nothing else to buy) for the third Sherman in the HQ. If I'm correct, it forms a platoon with the 2ic. If I take the 4 tank Stuart platoon that would give me 2 platoons there if you are correct. Now I've got a total of 6 platoons if I go with Stuart Recce over a second infantry platoon or a gun troop. Might play test that before May, but then I'd have to paint a troop of Stuarts (and buy two more).

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Post  Glitch Mon Apr 04, 2016 2:47 pm

Yeah, you are correct. The 2IC would form a platoon with the extra Sherman. The Stuart Patrol rule reads:

"SAR Recce Patrols operate as separate platoons, each with their own command team."
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Post  Matt Varnish Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:01 pm

On second thought I think I'll give this a pass. The very thought of painting more germans right now...... I should concentrate on my EW army for June and for Nationals.
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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:29 pm

Matt Varnish wrote:On second thought I think I'll give this a pass.  The very thought of painting more germans right now...... I should concentrate on my EW army for June and for Nationals.

Painters of the world rejoice. Someone else will have a chance to win best painted. Having said that Matt V surely must have enough painted stuff to do up a LW list.

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Post  RKelly Mon Apr 04, 2016 3:31 pm

Glitch wrote:Yeah, you are correct. The 2IC would form a platoon with the extra Sherman. The Stuart Patrol rule reads:

"SAR Recce Patrols operate as separate platoons, each with their own command team."

This might work. 50% on the board missions could be:

Currie
2 Shermans 2 Fireflies
2 Shermans 2 Fireflies
Infantry platoon in Kangaroos

Off the board:
4 Stuarts
2 Shermans

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